PLANAR 8130/8150 DLP FULL HD/Luminosité et contraste HDG

[pana]

Prix public pour le 8150 : 4990 euros. Pas encore trouvé de tarifs négociés, honte à moi lol

Dur en France, la marque est très peu connue et distribuée et son importateur a un petit circuit de distribution qui lui permet de bien controler les prix

[ba]

j espere qu il ne faut pas se fier aux screenshots sinon, le Benq w2000 doit lui mettre une longueur dans la vue...

[sylvain84]

tu as passe commande?

a+sylvain84

[lecareur]

Non pas encore.

Allez décide toi! je veux un avis objectif de ce bijou, je suis très très interressé, presque un mois sans projo ça commence à faire long

[lecareur]

Même à 5500 euros il reste cher, la frénésie acheteuse ce sera pour la rentrée

difficile de trouver un prix chez Planar même si le 8150 représente ce qu'il se fait de mieux en DLP pour ce prix... du moins pour l'instant

[mermoz]

Il faudra voir l'image délivrée pour la comparaison avec le BenQ W20000 !

Un des testeurs trouve que le Planar gomme le bruit vidéo*.Ach, les fourmis ne s'installent plus !

Sinon, les performances comparées "sur le papier" sont là:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/parts_c ... pid_3=3893

*Un truc qu'il faudra expliquer car j'ai, en ce moment, du bruit vidéo sur TF1 en TNT (Les flics de Miami) à la fois sur mon écran plat LCD (Sony X3500) et sur mon PJ (DLP). L'un en 40" et l'autre en 110", toutes proportions gardées évidemment.

De plus, il n'apparaît que sur certains "shots" et pas d'autres, comme quoi, l'encodage numérique et/ou la prise de vue analogique, laissent souvent à désirer.

Nous sommes dans cet exemple en MPEG2. Que dire en MPEG4, avec un encodage différenciel ?

[alvador]

bonsoir ,je suis étonné que ce planar n'est pas autant autant de succès que ca ? personnes n'aurait fait l'acquisition de ce 8130 voir 8150 ? bon le tarif est un peu élevé en comparaison de la concurrênce ,mais d'après ce que je vois sur des sites us , il est comparé et testé face a des hd1 plus scaler lumagen radiance et hd 100 ,et globalement il sortirai presque vainqueur face a ses deux concurrents et sans scaler !

c'est qu'il doit pas etre mauvais finalement bon si des acquéreurs de planar veulent se manifester

ou alors c'est peut etre son nom qui lui fait défaut a se projo c'est vrai que planar c'est pas trés parlant ca

[alvador]

voici un test en provenance d'avs http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1109060

Ruby vs Vw80 vs PD8150 vs HD750 - A small review

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I own a Ruby now for 3 years and the bulb becomes a bit dim. So, I thought let's see what has happened in the meantime...

The little review will continue over the next days, covering my impression step by step. It is totall subjective and your resluts may vary. My cinema has a light-controlled room and a 4.2m wide screen.

So...what I am looking after is:

- brightness
- colour
- Gamma
- shaprness
- contrast,
- sound
- smoothness of motions
- comfort

So, let's start with brithness, alwaysi in high lamp mode:
1. Planar PD8150
2. HD750
3. Ruby
4. VW80

The last two are currently quiet close, maybe the same. The PLanar really shines and the JD750 is very near to the Planar.

Colour
1. Ruby
2. Planar
3. VW80
4. HD750

I tried to dial in all Oj to a very natural "look", I love the xenon-lamp in the ruby, it really gives you a very natural experience. The PLanar is very near, the Vw80 as well. I canÄt stand the look of the HD750, I really tried, but did not like it, even in THX-Mode.

Gamma: Totoally subjective, but how are shadows rendered and brightness of the picture on my screen (yours my be different) and how fleixble can I adhjust it:

1. Ruby
2. VW80
3. PD8150
4. HD750

Again, the HD 750 can be very "dark" in shadows for example

Sharpness:
1. PD8150
2. VW80
3. HD750
4. Ruby

Clearly, the HD750 is very close or as sharp as the VW80, both are significantly sharper than the Ruby. But I feel that they have an artificially over-sharpened look sometimes while the PD8150 has a very, very clear and sharp look. Very 3D, very direkt as if you would have a glossy TFT instead of a normal. It look simply more natural.

Contrast:
1. Pd8150
2. HD750
3. VW80
4. Ruby

The Contrast of the 8150 in a scene is simply super. Even if the HD750 might have the higher specs, the picture has not the directness and this 3D-Contrast of the planar.

Sound of Silence:
1. VW80
2. Ruby
3. HD750
4. PD8150

The HD750 is in normal lamp mode as silent as the Sonys, but in Lamp mode high becomes much louder.

Smoothness of pictur e in motions:
1. VW80
2. PD8150
3. HD750
4. Ruby

The VW 80 is simply very, very good in coming up with smooth motions and you can adopt it in a way, that it still looks like cinema.

Comfort (Zoom / Lens shift):
1. Ruby, VW80, HD750
4. PD8150

Soooooo.....DLP has really something and I was very happy with my Ruby. A DLP with Xenon-Lamp...does anyone know one which cost less than 50000$ ?

Best Regards

Frank

[alvador]

OK, I did a second round and the results become much clearer now for me:

So, let's start with brigthness, always in high lamp mode:
1. Planar PD8150 - 15 Points
2. HD750 - 14 Points
3. Ruby - 10 Points
4. VW80 - 9 Points

The last two are currently quiet close, maybe the same. The PLanar really shines and the JD750 is very near to the Planar.

Colour
1. Ruby - 16 point
2. Planar - 16 point - not so natural as the Ruby, but much more saturated, really kicking
3. VW80 - 15 point
4. HD750- 12 point

I tried to dial in all Oj to a very natural "look", I love the xenon-lamp in the ruby, it really gives you a very natural experience. The PLanar is very near, the Vw80 as well. I canÄt stand the look of the HD750, I really tried, but did not like it, even in THX-Mode.

Gamma: Totally subjective, but how are shadows rendered and brightness of the picture on my screen (yours my be different) and how fleixble can I adhjust it:

1. Ruby - 16
2. VW80 - 16
3. PD8150 - 15
4. HD750 - 12

Again, the HD 750 can be very "dark" in shadows for example

Sharpness:
1. PD8150 - 17 - it is a very natural sharpness, no ringing, no unsharp mask you see simply a lot of details.
2. VW80 - 16
3. HD750 - 16
4. Ruby - 9

Clearly, the HD750 is very close or as sharp as the VW80, both are significantly sharper than the Ruby. But I feel that they have an artificially over-sharpened look sometimes while the PD8150 has a very, very clear and sharp look. Very 3D, very direkt as if you would have a glossy TFT instead of a normal. It look simply more natural.

Contrast:
1. Pd8150 - 17 in some scenes the black could be blacker, but overal the in picture contrast is marvelous ( I switched dynmic black out as is consumes to much brightness)
2. HD750 - 16
3. VW80 - 14
4. Ruby - 10

The Contrast of the 8150 in a scene is simply super. Even if the HD750 might have the higher specs, the picture has not the directness and this 3D-Contrast of the planar.

Sound of Silence:
1. VW80 - 17
2. Ruby - 17
3. HD750 - 15
4. PD8150 - 10

The HD750 is in normal lamp mode as silent as the Sonys, but in Lamp mode high becomes much louder.

Smoothness of pictur e in motions:
1. VW80 - 16
2. PD8150 - 14
3. HD750 - 14
4. Ruby - 14

The VW 80 is simply very, very good in coming up with smooth motions and you can adopt it in a way, that it still looks like cinema.

Comfort (Zoom / Lens shift):
1. Ruby, VW80, HD750 - 16
4. PD8150 - 10

Final ranking (again, based on the weighting of the factors above strongly on picture quality which is important to me, your weighting of these factors may be different):

1. Planar 8150
2. VW80
3. HD750
4. Ruby

I woudl not have exchanged the Ruby with the HD750 as I can't stand the colours of the HD750. The VW80 is a superior machine to the Ruby in every respect if the brightness is fine for you, but the PLanar is a must see (I had it with the wide-angle optic). And I am coming from 3 yaers SRXD...believe me, this result surprises me as well.

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[BangoO]

Disons que comparer des projos sans les calibrer, c'est un peu, voire meme beaucoup, inutile

[alvador]

il a l'air vraiment bien ce planar 8150

[alvador]

quelques photos du 8150 out off box par div gamer sur avs :
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre ... 20&page=14

[alvador]

d'autres photos par div gamer sur avs toujours http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre ... 20&page=16

[rolin9500]

bonjour je possede un planar 7060
concernant le 8130 ou 8150 je l ais vus a 3500 je crois en promo
le seul souci c est que peut de revendeur specialise en vendent

[rolin9500]

chez cobra la ou j ais acheter le mien a 990 alors qu il est encore a 1600 je crois partout
j ais vus un full 8150 a moins de 4000 http://www.cobrason.fr/pageproduit.asp?idproduit=9419
le mieux serait de passer ou de les appeler pour voir
demain je passerait les voir j habite a 20M je demanderait le prix si ca interesse certaint d entre vous
par contre il n est pas en demo celui la dommage